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Friday, December 16, 2016

The Knicks-Nuggets fight in 2006 was the NBA"s last brawl


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Dec. 16, 2006 might have been the NBAs final brawl.

Two years after the NBAs most infamous night in Auburn Hills, players from the Knicks and Nuggets tested the league again with a sprawling throwdown sparked by a violation of unwritten rules, spilling into the crowd, and ending with a foolish blow from young superstar Carmelo Anthony.

The league came down with a sledgehammer, as if to obliterate even the possibility of such behavior in the future. And indeed, there hasnt been a fight anywhere near that size in the decade since. You can still see ripples from David Sterns decision to make an example of the players who brawled.

Like The Malice at the Palace, the Knicks-Nuggets brawl erupted from a hard foul in the final seconds of a blowout loss for the home team. Isiah Thomas Knicks bristled at George Karl leaving his best players on the floor with a decisive win already in hand one of those perfectly legal tactics some take as an affront. Thomas takes basically everything as an affront, so it wasnt going to end well.

Karl had his garbage time subs at the scorers table, but before they could check in, the knicks committed a turnover, and Mardy Collins stifled a J.R. Smith fast break with what all evidence suggests was a premeditated flagrant foul. Nate Robinson was one of the first to the scene, and he readily admitted this was the case. Via ESPN:

"For what they did as in keeping guys in, I knew a foul was going to come," Robinson was quoted as saying after the game. "A hard one because we"re not going to let guys keep dunking when they"re up 20 and they have their starters in.

Collins committed the foul, Smith reacted, Robinson reacted to the reaction, and it built from there.

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It was a perfect storm. Had Isiah not been a petty, baseball-esque stickler for unwritten rules, the fight might never have started. Had the irascible Smith and Robinson not been two of the first people involved, it might not have inflamed further. And had Karl not broken Thomas unwritten rule by leaving his guys out there to run up the score, Carmelo Anthony might not have had an opportunity to sidetrack his burgeoning superstardom with a tiger claw to Mardy Collins face.

Refs couldnt contain the mayhem. Its almost tragic watching poor d**k Bavetta bear hug the least aggravated guy in the scrum.

So, two years after its biggest headache in Auburn Hills, Mich., the league faced another big headache. The MSG brawl didnt feature players punching fans, but it had players punching among fans in the stands. And it had Melo the NBAs leading scorer at the time and viable candidate for Face of the League reigniting a dead fight by pawing a dude in the face and running.

In response, David Stern dropped a heavy stack of suspensions along with $500,000 fines for each franchise. Smith and Robinson each got 10 games for punching each other, while Collins and New Yorks Jared Jeffries got six and four-game suspensions, respectively. Anthonys suspension was the most punitive: 15 games (during which Denver acquired Allen Iverson!) for that final smack. Fifteen games equals the punishment meted out to Jermaine ONeal (after an appeal) for assaulting a fan on the court in Detroit.

Suspensions that severe constituted sanction not just on the fighters, but on the very idea of fighting. It was prophylaxis as much as penalty; an effort to deter future brawls by over-punishing this one. Stern didnt try to hide that:

It is our obligation to take the strongest possible steps to avoid such failures in the future and to make a statement to all who follow the game of basketball that we understand our obligations and take them seriously. Accordingly, I am issuing the penalties listed below, and will take the occasion to set forth some of the considerations that have influenced my decision here and will continue to guide us as we seek to demonstrate our determination that the NBA and its players be viewed as standing for the best in sports.

Memories of The Palace brawl definitely cast a shadow over that decision, but when the man behind the dress code insisted players stand for the best in sports, there was something grander going on. Every other professional sport hosted violence sometimes, but none of them regarded any fight as a blight on the entire league, beyond just the individuals involved. Only the NBA with predominantly black players presented just 10 at a time, right at the live audiences feet, unobscured by helmets or pads or fiberglass barriers would express such high-level self-consciousness.

At the time, Dave Zirin pointed out columnists looking far beyond the two coaches one who ran up the score, the other who retaliated for blame, and for responsibility to change:

On these two men the blame should fall, and in any other sport, that is exactly what would occur. But not when it involves the NBA.

Instead, we are deluged with articles about how, as a Yahoo Sports headline described it, this is really "a black eye" for the entire league. The Baltimore Sun"s Childs Walker wrote that the brawl should spark a discussion "about the sociology of the NBA." MSNBC"s Michael Ventre opined that "the terms "NBA" and "thuggery" have become inextricably linked in the minds of basketball fans the world over." The piece also calls the incident another example of "The NBA Vs. Idiots."

Young black men scuffling, even scuffling in a way that would make foxy boxing seem threatening, seem to be a catalyst for an astounding amount of public hand-wringing.

Former NBAer Steve Kerr, while chastising Melo in isolation, imagined the fight in a hockey context and reasonably assumed it wouldnt have made waves:

The league"s image is paramount, and it took such a beating after the brawl at The Palace that Stern will do everything necessary to halt fighting. (Never mind that nobody seems to be concerned about hockey"s image, where a fight like the Anthony/Collins one occurs nightly and is cheered but that"s a different story.)

Right? Hockey players tussling is hockey. Basketball players doing the same is cause for the referees union asking Martin Luther King III to moderate a conflict resolution summit. The structure of the sport and its arenas must play a part in that distinction, but when the word thuggery is getting thrown around, so too must race.

Ten years later, Zirin and Kerrs suspicions have been realized. The NHL and MLB both still stomach massive fights without league-wide reckonings, while the NBAs image-conscious crackdown really has set it apart from the rest of pro sports.

Whats the most vicious basketball fight since 2006? Metta World Peace got a seven-game ban for one elbow, the biggest suspension this decade for an on-court incident. Theres the occasional punch or headbutt or throat grab, but it never escalates from there. Dudes mostly fight by mushing their foreheads together and exchanging a shove or two.

And in this least violent era, the NBAs reputation is soaring. Soft, some say, but the game looks clean, the stars are glowing, and the profits are hiiiiigh.

Maybe thats just good fortune, or maybe the NBAs self-conscious message to its players still resonates 10 years later. This league doesnt expect the slack other pro leagues get when competitors turns violent. Its players make a solitary statement and stand subject to unique obligations, to use David Sterns words.

Pro basketball players are compelled to be twice as good as their counterparts, for they represent an image, not just themselves. We may never see an NBA brawl again.

Source: http://www.sbnation.com/2016/12/16/13936588/knicks-nuggets-brawl-2006-nba-fight

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Monday, December 5, 2016

NBA Trade Rumors: Knicks To Keep Derrick Rose; Celtics Getting Paul George And Chicago Bulls Getting Nerlens Noel?


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NBA trade rumors are persistent and they seemingly always involve Paul George and Nerlens Noel. But is Derrick Rose included in the mix? (NBA /YouTube)

After a rocky start, it seems that the New York Knicks are pulling themselves together. Some believe that this is proof of the work rookie coach Hornacek is doing with the Knicks. The help given by Derrick Rose bolstered the team"s lineup. Some NBA trade rumors last season became true when GM Phil Jackson opted to sign up Rose together with Joakin Noah to help the team out.

Derrick Rose Will Be Staying With The Knicks

The Knicks won their game over the Minnesota Timberwolves last Friday night. Although the hero of the night was Kyle O"Quinn, other role players also contributed to the final score. This is testament to the veteran coaching skills of Hornacek, although it is his rookie year for the Knicks.

Derrick Rose has been a great additionto the knicks" roster. his addition helps to bolster the team"s lineup. Carmelo Anthony is performing his best in his role, and the rising second-year veteran Kristaps Prozingas has ably supported him on the court. With this combination, some NBA trade rumors suggest that the Knicks will keep Rose in their roster for a much longer time.

Paul George Being Traded For 7 Celtics Players

Meanwhile, some NBA trade rumorsalso indicate that the Boston Celtics are eyeing Paul George. A report on HNGN said that the missing piece that the team is searching for may come by way of George. The report said that the relentless effort of the Celtics to build up the team induces the trade of four future draft choices including Kelly Olynyk, Amir Johnson and Jae Crowder for Paul George.

An Eventual Trade Could Be Soon For Nerlens Noel

Other NBA trade rumors have suggested that the 76ers will eventually trade Nerlens Noel. With Noel unhappy with his situation on the team, the deal may be inked sooner. The two teams supposedly interested in the deal are the Portland Trailblazers and the Chicago Bulls. If the Philadelphia 76ers will agree with the asking price, the deal might push through with either of the two teams.

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Source: http://www.itechpost.com/articles/61773/20161205/nba-trade-rumors-knicks-keep-derrick-rose-celtics-getting-paul.htm

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Thursday, January 28, 2016

Incomplete NY Knicks Have a Lot to Address at NBA Trade Deadline


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On Jan. 20, the Knicks had clambered up to a .500 record and a finger-hold on a playoff berth; as of Jan. 28, they"re 22-25. To start racking up the wins again, the Knickerbockers still have a few improvements to make.

They might find the right tools for the job on the trade market, but don"t expect them to bring home any heavy machinery. Their available assets will more likely fetch an off-brand handheld power drill on the clearance rack. (Though there are whispers of them throwing caution to the wind and making a major move for a dreamboat point guard.)

If the front office is going shopping between now and the Feb. 18 trade deadline, here are the priorities it ought to have in mind.

Unreliable Scoring

Knicks shooting guard Arron Afflalo was a scoring fiend at the beginning of the month, but he"s only shooting 34.0 percent in the past four games.

New York"s sharpshooters haven"t been very sharp.The Knicks haveshot under 40 percent 14 times this season. Surprise, surprise: They have lost 13 of those games.

They weren"t all blowouts, either. Strong defense kept the squad within striking range of the Cleveland Cavaliers on Nov. 13 and Dec. 23 when they fell 90-84 and 91-84, respectively.

They also nearly squeezed out a win over the Sacramento Kings on Dec. 10. After falling behind by as many as 19, they made a major comeback in the fourth quarter, somehow managing to put 97 points on the board despite shooting a miserly 39.8 percent. They ultimately lost 99-97.

The simple truth is it"s hard to win when you just cannot find the bottom of the net.

The Knicks have improved their shooting efficiency in January by attacking the basket. Their field-goal percentage for the month is 45.7 percent (even including abominationslike the116-88 beatdown by the Los Angeles Clippers on Jan. 22 and soulless dreks like the 97-84 loss the next night to the Charlotte Hornets). Yet shooting guard Arron Afflalo is streaky (as Knicks 2s have a tendency to be), and New York could use some more reliable jumpers in their arsenal.

Unpicked Pockets

Your team is down, the opponent has the ball, the game clock is nearing zero, the shot clock is turned off and you have no fouls to give. You need a steal, a quick bucket and a timeout something fierce.

Well, I hope your team isn"t the New York Knickerbockers because while they are very good at applying pressure and altering shots, they don"t force opponents to cough up the rock. New York is last in steals, opponent turnovers and points off turnovers.

Flashback to Jan. 8. With five minutes left in regulation, the Knicks were down 92-80 to the superb San Antonio Spurs. Then, with a full team effort, the Knicks go on a 19-8 tear.

Down by one with seconds left, Carmelo Anthony, triple-teamed, somehow gets a pass out to Jose Calderon, who has a clean look at a three-pointer at the buzzer...but it"s no good. The thriller ends with a 100-99 Knicks loss and head coach Derek Fisher consoling a gobsmacked Anthony paralyzed in some private horror.

Don"t blame Melo for the pass or Calderon for the miss. Consider the fact that a) LaMarcus Aldridge was committed to punishing Kristaps Porzingis for that putback dunk in November and b) the Knicks only had one steal in that entire gamea pass intercepted by Porzingis in the first quarter. Imagine what the outcome might have been if Langston Galloway or Calderon had picked Tony Parker"s pocket during that crunch-time run and prevented just one layup.

The Knicks are at the bottom of the barrel with only 6.0 steals per game, while the league average is 7.8. Two extra steals per game might not sound like much, but it makes a difference. When the Knicks perform closer to average and nab eight or more steals, they"re 8-6; when they get fewer than eight steals, they"re 14-19.

Defensive Rebounding

Flash a bit forwardto Tuesday"s phenomenal game versus the Oklahoma City Thunder at Madison Square Garden. The Knicks were facing a healthy Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Serge Ibaka and Steven Adams, while Anthony sat on the bench nursing a sore knee. The forecast was bleak.

Against all odds, the Knicks played a heroic, fast-paced game with 20 lead changes and 22 ties. They took the Thunder to overtime but ultimately fell 128-122.

Imagine what the outcome might have been if OKC hadn"t outrebounded New York 59-42.

The two teams were nearly identical in shooting efficiency, free throws and assists; the Knicks actually outdid the Thunder quite a bit on turnovers and blocks. Yet the battle of the boards was a disaster.

To be fair, the Thunder are one of the best in the league at crashing the glass. But I"ve been droning on for weeks now about the Knicks" need for more boards on the defensive end.

For a team that"s excellent at rim protection, the Knicks allow quite a lot of points to be scored in the paint. Within six feet of the hoop, they squash opponents" shooting efficiency by 3.4 percentbest in the league by a large marginand they"re seventh in blocks.

The generous interpretation is their strong perimeter defense forces opponents inside (though their D near the arc has been lagging recently). A more realistic read is they fail to secure D-bounds and let up 14.0 second-chance points per game (a sad 22nd in the league).

Fast-Break Offense and Athleticism

You know you love those breakaway alley-oops, steal-and-slams and caution-to-the-wind driving and-1s by Galloway, Jerian Grant and Derrick Williams. You know you still watch the footage of Porzingis" steal, spin and slam from October to make you smile on a bad day.

Fast-break points are fun. Unfortunately, these struggles to tear down defensive boards and force turnovers limit the Knicks" fast-break opportunities. Although their transition game has been livelier in January, they"re still last in fast-break points.

So what? Some teams win with a purely half-court offense and force opponents to play at their slow pace. The Miami Heat do it brilliantly.

However, the Knicks have this energetic, young core springing off the bench that has the skill to run a high-speed transition offense, and it should be given more support. (Plus, the Knicks aren"t able to corral their opponents" transition game quite as well as the Heat, which is a challenge for their defense to take on.)

Let"s have another look at Tuesday"s game versus Oklahoma City. It wasn"t the usual starters who were taking on Westbrook and Durant; it was Galloway, Grant, Williams and Lance Thomas, with a little help from Afflalo and Porzingis. New York could contend because those players could keep up with the breakneck pace OKC was setting.

Until they couldn"t.

Eventually, fatigue became a factor, and even the aggressive D-Will stopped looking for his shot. It happened Jan. 13, too. A shortened lineup, led in the fourth quarter by bench players, nearly took home a W, but after even the young legs wore out, the Knicks fell to the Brooklyn Nets 110-104.

An extra body or two that can keep the transition offense cooking when these guys need to rest and a quicker center who better fits with that unit would be a boon to this team.

Jeff Teague Is the Top Target?

Had I thought the Atlanta Hawks would even toy with the idea of parting with starting point guard Jeff Teague, I would have suggested it myself because he"d be an excellent fit for the Knicks. It seemed too improbable to merit more than a daydream.

However, according to a report by ESPN.com"s Ian Begley on Wednesday, the Knicks and Hawks have actually been discussing the possibility of bringing Teague to New York.

Begley, unfortunately, doesn"t have any details on what the Knicks have offered and reiterated what we already know: "Several executives have labeled the Knicks" trade assets as underwhelming."

Yet if Atlanta is serious about dealing the leader of the team that had the best record in the East last season, the Knicks front office should give it consideration because Teague is perfect for driving some of the necessary changes mentioned above.

Although his scoring numbers are down this season, he"s still high on the leaderboards in fast-break points and points off turnovers. He drives, he draws fouls, he pushes the pace, he picks pockets.

Plus, he"s the kind of team-first player Fisher wants. Teague"s got an exhilarating playing style and a calm, composed personal style. It"s a nice combo.

How do they get him? Which of their "underwhelming" assets would Atlanta want? That"s a tougher question. Although the smoothest swap for the Knicks would involve Calderon, the hotter ticket would probably be Afflalo.

One trouble with that deal from New York"s perspective is that Teague is having a miserable time with his jump shot this year. Dealing Afflalo for Teague and moving Galloway into Afflalo"s spot in the starting lineup might work, but the Knicks are then back to a limited-range backcourt, relying on Carmelo and Porzingis for a lot of the spacing.

Nevertheless, it might be a gamble worth taking.

If Teague isn"t the guy, then lower-priced options like Washington Wizards guard Garrett Temple and Denver Nuggets rising star swingman Will Barton ought to be next on the Knicks" list.

What else might the Knickerbockers want to repair at the deadline? They could still use some help penetrating the paint. Early-season losses could be attributed almost exclusively to being outscored in the paint by large margins, but the team has improved so drastically both protecting and attacking the interior that it"s been left off the main priority list.

They"re actually outscoring opponents in the paint by 2.2 points on average this month. Nevertheless, another player who can score inside would be appreciated.

If I were in the Knicks front office, I might forgo trades entirely, invest some of the team"s capital in cloning technology and sign a Carmelo Anthony clone (at the proper salary for an undrafted rookie, of course). Although the squad has battled admirably in his absence, the Knicks are 0-5 with Melo on the bench.

All stats are from NBA.com/stats. Follow Sara Peters on Twitter @3FromThe7 and Instagram @sara_at_3fromthe7.

Source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2611352-incomplete-ny-knicks-have-a-lot-to-address-at-nba-trade-deadline

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NBA trade rumors: Knicks dealing for Atlanta Hawks" Jeff Teague?


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If you"ve heard anything from us about possible Knickstrade targets, it"s been two words: Point. Guard.

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After some rumblings about Detroit Pistons guard Brandon Jenningsand ex-Sixers guard Tony Wroten, there"s now another PG who could be on the Knicks" radar, per ESPN"s Ian Begley: The Atlanta Hawks" Jeff Teague:

The Nets are the worst franchise in pro sportsHopeless now. Hopeless in the future. But at least they"re Brooklyn"s problem now.

"The Knicks are one of several teams to express interest in the 27-year-old Teague. ...It"s unknown at this point how far along the talks between the Knicks and Hawks are but one league source said that casual discussions have been ongoing for several days.

"It"s also unclear what the Knicks have offered in a potential Teague deal.

"Several executives have labeled the Knicks" trade assets as underwhelming."

Here"s what the Knicks have that"s of any value, as Begley notes: Guards Langston Galloway and Jerian Grant, and a first-round pick in 2018 (though we all know what dealing first-rounders has done for the Knicks lately). That"s pretty much it.

Kevin Durant to the Knicks?

Teague still has this year and the next left on his contract, which would put a dent in the Knicks" 2016 cap ... and Oklahoma City Thunder star Kevin Durant just happens to be a free agent this summer.

The other option to shore up at the point? Wait until the offseason and go after a name like the Memphis Grizzlies" Mike Conley.

Follow Charles Curtis on Twitter@charlescurtis82. FindNJ.com on Facebook.

Source: http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2016/01/nba_trade_rumors_knicks_dealing_for_atlanta_hawks.html

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